Men and Abortion
by Ron Belgau
This is a slightly edited transcript of a speech given March 25, 2006 at the Symposium on Life Issues held at St. Monica’s Catholic Church on Mercer Island.
First of all, I want to thank all of you for coming. I know
many of you are busy, and some of you had to make sacrifices to be here. But
you are here to learn, to equip yourselves to become better advocates for the
culture of life among your friends and family. And I thank you being here to
listen to what I and the other speakers have to say.
  I want especially to thank all of those who helped organize
this event—Mary Smith, Mike Stergios, and all the others whose names I don’t know.
You’ve put together a great event so far, and it’s an honor to be invited to
speak.
I
If you knew nothing about human biology, you could listen to
most of our debates about abortion and never realize that men are involved in
any way. We talk about the woman’s body, the woman’s right to choose. We in
the pro-life movement talk about the unborn child’s right to life. But what
about the father? Women seldom choose abortion when the father wants the
child, wants to help out. But all too often, they demand the “right to choose”
because of men who will not take responsibility for their choices.
  I use the word responsibilities here deliberately. There’s
been a lot of talk of “father’s rights” that’s grown up around abortion. And I
think there’s some validity to this, but I’m also very skeptical of the whole
framework.
  In a way, talk of “father’s rights” is natural. As you
know, we tend to frame the abortion question in terms of rights: the woman’s
right to choose, the unborn child’s right to life. And within this framework,
it’s natural that we should speak of the father’s rights.
  Some pro-lifers seem drawn to this approach. When I was researching
this speech, I came across several pro-life websites featuring tragic stories of
men who wanted to keep their child, but couldn’t prevent the mother from choosing
abortion. Should not these men have had the right to be involved in the
decision regarding their child’s fate? And would not fathers who had such
rights have been better able to protect their children?
  And I agree that this approach seems very attractive. But we
have to look at it in light of the current confused and corrupted state of our laws.
  What the law calls a woman’s right to choose is a virtually
unlimited right to terminate her parental responsibilities. She can, of
course, also choose to keep the child. And we in the pro-life movement applaud
her when she does, and we should do everything we can to support her, materially,
but also emotionally and spiritually.
  Now, speaking at a pro-life conference, I hardly have to
belabor the point that placing the right to choose ahead of the right to life
is a terrible inversion. But this is the legal framework we work within today.
And if we try to give rights to men within this framework, what will happen? It
is true that some men might choose to support their child, and within this
framework, have more legal authority to defend their child’s right to life. But
it would also, I think, create the opportunity for men to have the same
unlimited right to terminate their parental responsibilities that women now
enjoy.
II
So, I want to look at the problem in a different context.
  I have been asked to speak on the topic of men and
abortion. And I think to do this, we have to completely reject the framework
in which the unborn child is just treated as a part of her mother’s body.
  There is actually a sad irony here. A few decades ago, if a
man beat his wife, and the police were called, they wouldn’t interfere. “A man’s
home is his castle,” after all, and what right does society have to tell a man what
to do in his home?
  But a woman is a human being, not a piece of her husband’s
property. And an unborn child is also a human being, not just an unwanted
growth in the mother’s body.
  What we want, then, is a moral framework which respects and
protects the human dignity of all parties—men, women, and children. And this
means that, although my focus today is on men, I do so within a framework that
applies to everyone. This is probably fortunate, since there are a lot more
women here than there are men.
  There are two basic principles that underlie everything I
will say today:
  First, that the essential foundation of the culture of life
is chastity: men and women who steward their sexuality as God intended, with
purity of heart and appropriate self-discipline, grounded in respect for
themselves and respect for each other. This is not a call for rigid or
arbitrary rules: because cultivating the virtue of chastity is the road to
freedom and deeply rooted happiness—a way of
living in which human love can grow and flourish.
  The second principle is that when a man and a woman have
conceived a child, they are responsible for the new life they have brought into
the world, at the least until they can find others better prepared to give the
child the care it needs. Once again, although there is a burden in this
responsibility, there is also the deep satisfaction of knowing that we have fulfilled
the responsibility for the gift of life that God has given.
  These fundamental principles are not addressed particularly
to men. Everyone here today, male or female, should be able to gain something
from what I have to say.
  However, as a broad generalization, men have done more to
undermine these two basic principles. And the primary beneficiaries of
abortion have been men who wanted easy sex without commitment and without consequences.
So today, I’m going to address my remarks primarily to men, but I do so within
a framework that is applicable to all.
III
I want to begin with a very chilling conversation that I had
a while back with a women’s studies major who also worked at Planned
Parenthood. Not surprisingly, she was an advocate of safer sex, abortion, the
whole nine yards, and saw this as the only solution to unwanted pregnancy.
  We got into a bit of a discussion. I pointed out that
although we have far more information about sex than people had a hundred years
ago, far more access to contraceptive technology than they had a hundred years
ago, we also have far more out of wedlock pregnancies than they had a hundred
years ago.
  I made the usual arguments for the superiority of chastity.
But her final argument really chilled me: women need contraception and
abortion, she said, because there are many men who won’t take no for an answer.
  This is an elephant in the room. Reliable statistics on
date rape are hard to come by, because many women don’t want to report it.
  Still, there seems to be a consensus among the different
surveys that I’ve looked at, that about 25% of college women will experience
some form of rape, the overwhelming majority of which will be date rape. I’ve spent
7 of the last 13 years in a college environment, and while this 1 in 4
statistic is shocking, it doesn’t entirely surprise me, just based on some of
the stuff that I’ve seen. It is believable.
  Rape means that sex is non-consensual. It doesn’t have to
be violent, doesn’t have to involve force. It just has to be non-consensual.
Now, as a legal matter, this gets very hard to prove beyond a reasonable shadow
of a doubt, and there’s a lot of gray area. I don’t want go into that aspect
of it.
  But I think we need to speak very bluntly to men here. Now,
I’m a man. I understand the progression of what happens to a guy in an
exciting situation. I understand how hormones affect judgment. I understand
how easy it is to get carried away. But men need to understand that if a woman
doesn’t give permission to get carried away, or if she tries to put on the
brakes and the man still gets carried away, that’s not just getting carried
away: that’s date rape.
  A few years ago, one of my closest female friends revealed
to me that she’d been date-raped several years before in college. The
situation: she, a good Christian girl, had gone out with a good Christian guy.
They were alone together in his room, things started escalating. She said they
should stop, and he didn’t stop.
  And she’s not alone. At least two other friends of mine
have also had the same experience. In each case, the experience was traumatic,
despite the fact that neither force nor violence was involved.
  Date rape involves a terrible betrayal of trust and
violation of intimacy. It can undermine the victim’s ability to trust men. It
can come up again years later within marriage, creating emotional barriers that
make it very difficult for a woman to truly enjoy intimacy with her husband.
  Even more shocking: according to one researcher—again, statistics in this
are hard to pin down because women don’t want to talk about it. But according to one researcher, 44% of
women who are date-raped contemplate suicide. Date rape, mind you. Not masked
stranger with a gun rape. Date rape, where what starts out as a fun evening
gets carried away.
  Why am I dwelling on this? Date rape is an extreme. But
it’s nevertheless a logical conclusion of many common male sexual attitudes.
In Good News about Sex and Marriage, Christopher West—who many of you
will probably have heard of for his work with the theology of the body—relates
how the date rape of a female classmate was the catalyst that drove him to see
how dysfunctional his “conquest” oriented attitudes towards sexuality were, and
led him to read, understand, and embrace the Pope’s teaching on human
sexuality.
  And though I discovered chastity before any of my female
friends told me about their experiences with date rape, listening to them
dramatically changed the way that I view the way a lot of other men look at sex.
  Our culture suggests that men should prove their masculinity
by having sex. It is common for men to boast about—and usually to
exaggerate—their sexual conquests. And when men talk this way, they never talk
in any realistic way about women’s feelings, other than to boast (whether it’s
true or not) that she was amazed at their sexual prowess.
  We thus have powerful cultural forces that tell men that
they should always be trying to grab any sexual opportunity they can get.
Those who do not embrace this attitude will often be subtly or openly mocked.
As one guy sneered at me in high school, “Oh, don’t tell me you’ve fallen for
that ‘you must love them’ bullshit.” (Don’t worry, they’ll probably bleep that
out in the recording.)
  At the same time, I encounter Christians who essentially buy
into the idea that men are just sexual machines, but because Christians want to
promote chastity, they focus almost all their efforts on getting the women to
say no, while largely assuming that “boys will be boys.”
  There are any number of ways that this is wrong, but I want
to focus on two.
  First, it’s unfair to women. Why should they be the ones
who have bear all the burden of upholding chastity? Especially when men are
supposed to be the spiritual leaders within a marriage. Why are we placing all
the burden of living love as God intended it on the woman, and entirely
neglecting the formation of the man to model God’s love in the relationship?
  Second, it’s unfair to men, because it means that many men
will never get any help in developing the self-mastery necessary to enjoy a
healthy and productive life. The entertainment media and many of their friends
encourage them into an ultimately empty and unfulfilling attitude towards sex,
while those who ought to speak out and show them the better way—their fathers,
their pastors, their religious educators—all too often remain silent.
  And then it happens, sooner or later, that a woman tries to
tell her boyfriend no, but he has probably never thought seriously about her
perspective—he just hears about how sex makes you a man and that women are impressed
with sexual prowess. And so he gets carried away. And his girlfriend,
desperately afraid lest her life be destroyed by a baby, goes to Planned
Parenthood.
IV
Some of you may think that I’m presenting an overly
simplified picture, that things are more complicated than that. And I agree. There
is a lot more to it than that. But I think that the picture I’m presenting, while
simplified, does still broadly describe an important social reality that
surrounds us.
  The overwhelming majority of men do not date rape their
girlfriends. But it is also true that the overwhelming majority of us—by what
we say or fail to say, by what we do or fail to do—contribute to the cultural
climate in which women are dehumanized, and in which women, fearing the burden
of a baby, dehumanize their child.
  Before I finish, I will talk about how a man should respond
if he has gotten a woman pregnant. But first, I want to talk about how men can
promote the culture of life by changing our own attitudes and behavior. Those
who assume that “boys will be boys” do not even try to challenge men to a
higher standard. But I believe that this attitude is condescending, and, in
fact, ultimately, emasculating. It makes us slaves of whatever curvaceous
carrot the culture decides to dangle in front of us, and denies that we have
the power to discipline ourselves or our sexual impulses. It denies, ultimately,
that we have the power to choose a better—and happier—way.
V
There are two points that I want to make under this general
heading: first, the importance of our words—the way we talk—in shaping
attitudes, both our own and those around us; and second, the necessity of
cultivating virtues—good habits—in order to live a pure life.
  I am willing to bet that, even for some in this group, you
feel two things when you I talk about chastity as a way to freedom and
happiness. First, a part of you is really excited by that, thinks it’s true,
wants to hear more. And, another part of you thinks I’m a bit of a weirdo
who’s probably out of touch with the culture.
  We live in a culture that constantly makes fun of chastity
and belittles it. It’s repressed, it’s unhealthy, it’s unhip. The result is
that those—and there are a lot more than you think—who feel frustrated with the
sexual revolution and feel drawn towards chastity feel like they’re the only
person who has ever felt that way. So they don’t speak up, for fear of
ridicule. And they don’t find out that others have been feeling the same
doubts about the culture around them, and have the same hopes for a healthier,
better grounded, style of relating to others.
  Because pastors are afraid of criticism, afraid of seeming
out of touch, they don’t preach the church’s teaching from the pulpit. And this
means that there are many young people in the pews who feel attracted to
chastity—who feel that chastity might be the answer to the dysfunction they see
around them—don’t have that desire validated from the pulpit. Nor do they
receive any instruction that would help them to resist the pressure to be
sexually active that they get from the media, from sex ed programs at school,
from their friends.
  Now, I don’t want to pretend that this is easy. I only
occasionally challenge this stuff when it comes up, and I’m a chastity speaker:
I know the answers and the arguments, and am better prepared to defend myself
than most. And I think to some degree you do have to pick your battles. At
the same time, silence is not a neutral stance.
  If we do not speak out at least some of the time, others
will assume that we agree with the values expressed by the culture. And if any
of those around us themselves feel attracted to chastity but isolated, our
silence means that they will assume that we would join the forces that would
mock chastity.
  Moreover, our words shape expectations. Because I have
spoken and written on chastity, I have a very public commitment to uphold a
certain standard. People around me, whether they agree with me or not, expect
me to uphold the standard that I talk about. Like everyone else, I have my
temptations. But because the people around me know where I stand, that gives
me an additional incentive to uphold the convictions that I believe and that I have
expressed.
  And if we lack the courage to express our convictions, we
often will lack the courage to stand by them in action when tested. But if we
let people know where we stand, our words often strengthen our resolve to act,
and strengthen the resolve of others around us when they feel tempted.
  And sometimes, speaking can have a much bigger impact than
you would expect. One time, back when I was in college—this is probably almost
a decade ago now—an acquaintance invited me to an off-campus party. This was
at the University of Washington. It turned out to have more alcohol and wild
dancing than I really liked, so I went out in the backyard and was sitting at a
picnic table with a group of guys. And in the course of conversation, someone
raised the topic of what the first time they had sex was like. So they went
around the table, and one by one told their stories in the usual boasting way.
So I was sitting here wondering what I was going to say when they got around to
me. I was thinking maybe I’d make something up. But, instead, I told the
truth, that I was still a virgin, and tried to explain why: that I thought
relationships should be based on love and respect, my convictions as a
Christian. And when I finished, one guy said, “Wow. I wish I’d had the
strength to be like you.” And for the next couple of hours, the whole group was
quizzing me about this—genuinely interested, genuinely respectful of the choice
that I’d made.
VI
Of course, just talking about chastity, without learning to
live it, is useless. Others will see through that kind hypocrisy. Those who
dislike chastity will have another reason to dislike it, when they see our
hypocrisy. And those who are attracted to it will become discouraged, and more
tempted to think it’s impossible, unattainable, and thus themselves be tempted to
give up, rather than professing what they don’t believe they can practice.
  And I think it is easy to be tempted to give up, to think
that the standard that God sets is unachievable. I’ve certainly felt the
temptation to rationalize away the demands of the Church’s teaching, or to
become frustrated at the slow pace of progress. But I don’t regret continuing
to press forward.
  Chastity is a virtue, and I think that’s part of the problem,
because not many people these days understand the concept of virtue, really at
all. The word virtue, in fact, is derived from the Latin word for manly
strength—and it has the same root as the English word virile. That is probably
a surprise to some: not at all the way most people think of virtue these days.
  I’m going to try and unpack the concept of virtue for you. So,
first of all, let’s begin with a simple example. Who here has been bowling?
  Who has gotten a strike?
  Who’s bowled a 300 game?
  There’s the difference. Almost everyone gets a strike
sometimes, if only by blind luck. But to bowl a 300 game takes a lot of
practice and skill. You don’t just hit the strikes by blind luck—you practice
so that you develop the habits that help you succeed.
  The same is true for every sport. A great player doesn’t
just occasionally get lucky—he practices and practices so that he can
consistently make the right moves, even in the face of serious opposition.
  And when an Olympic athlete takes the gold, it’s not just
because he or she put out great effort during the competition itself. That
winning performance took years and years of practice to perfect.
  Now, virtue is a habitual and firm disposition to do the good.
That is the product of a lot of practice. And, in fact, just as most athletes don’t
start out great, but make a lot of mistakes along the way to mastering their
sport, the road to virtue is also often paved by struggles and failures.
  One of the mistakes that a lot of people make is thinking
that chastity means the absence of temptation. (Of course, it would be easier
if it were that way.) So they pray for God to take away their temptations;
they keep feeling tempted; and so they give up. But this is sort of like a
tennis player who hopes to win Wimbledon unopposed. That’s just not the way sports
work, and it’s not the way virtue works, either.
  Now chastity can be difficult. But from failures we learn the
situations we need to avoid if we want to do the good, and success reinforces
good habits and good decisions. With sincere and diligent commitment, with
repentance, self-examination, and change of habits after failures, it is
possible to develop good, firm habits that will lead to virtuous character.
  Now, if this process of developing virtue is understood in
purely human terms, many will be tempted to give up. Because, after all,
something like athletics depends not just on diligent practice, but on native skill.
I’m probably never going to be a great basketball player, no matter how hard I
practice.
  However, when we speak of virtue, in the sense of Christian
virtue, we’re talking not just about our own efforts. We’re talking about the
work of Christ. It depends, not on our talents, but on His native talents and
abilities. And He’s got ’em. So we have to learn to consistently lean on Him,
not on our own strength. That means learning to walk moment by moment in His
presence. Now, when we wander away from that presence and fall, we must
repent, turn back, ask for His forgiveness, healing, and strength to continue.
  I think it’s providential that I should be speaking about
this on the feast of the Annunciation, in a Church dedicated to St. Monica, the
mother of St. Augustine.
  When the Archangel Gabriel announced to Mary that she would
bear a son, she replied, “How can this be, since I am a virgin?” We heard this
in the reading this morning at Mass. Gabriel did not tell her, “Well, you’re going
to have to try harder.” He simply replied that she would conceive by the power
of the Holy Spirit. And she replied, “Let it be done to me according to thy
word.”
  We don’t need to pretend that chastity is easy. In our
fallen human state, the purity of heart which forbids even lustful looks, not
just sinful actions, is impossible: as impossible as the virgin birth. But
what is impossible by human efforts is possible by God’s grace.
  Although St. Monica did talk to St. Augustine about her
faith, and tell him that he was living a sinful life, that’s not why she’s considered
a saint. Far more important than her words to him were the prayers and tears
that she poured out to God, for her prayers brought the power of the Holy
Spirit into Augustine’s heart, where they could change his life in a way that
Monica never could have.
  I think much of the confusion that we feel over faith and
works results from our failure to understand this concept of virtue in supernatural
light. We think either in terms of human virtues—our talents, our effort—or we
think that it’s not our abilities, our talents, that we just sort of sit back, and
let God do everything.
  But this is false. We must rely wholly, completely on
Christ’s strength. But in order to do that, we must practice His presence,
consistently seek Him out, and repent when we have wandered away. We aren’t
saved by our own strength, but wholly by God’s power, God’s ability. But at
the same time, though God takes the initiative with us, comes down to us, we
still have to respond, and open ourselves to His strength day by day, moment by
moment.
  I think another thing that we’ve had recently—and by
recently I mean the last few hundred years—is that we have an idea of virtue
that is wholly negative. It’s defined by a set of prohibitions: virtuous
people don’t do X, Y, and Z. But true virtue is positive: it teaches us how to
use the powers God has given us to their fullest potential. And this includes
our sexual powers and our powers of showing affection and love to others.
  Another fruit of the neglect of virtue is that because morality
is expressed in terms of obligations, duties, and prohibitions, we neglect
friendship, because you can’t have an obligation or duty to become someone’s
friend: that is pure gift. However, friendship used to occupy a central place
in discussions of Christian ethics. Friendship was seen as a school of virtue,
because friends who sought to live in God’s will encouraged each other. Friendship
was important because the Church took seriously the idea that “where two or
three are gathered in my name, there am I in their midst.” Christian friends
help to make God present to each other. By reminding each other of Christ, we help
each other to live day by day in His presence, and rely moment by moment on His
strength.
VII
The culture of life is rooted in the virtue of chastity. We
bear witness to it by our words and our actions, and by our words and our actions
we either strengthen or undermine the commitment of those around us. If we
just say, “Abortion is prohibited,” without trying to alter the surrounding
culture, we place a disproportionate burden on the woman.
  But if we promote chastity, we promote respect between the
sexes, and particularly respect for women, which is so often utterly ignored in
contemporary culture. Chastity is a challenge for everyone, but also
beneficial to everyone.
  Now, when I was first invited to speak on pro-life issues, a
couple years ago, I was a bit reluctant to do so. Abortion is seen as a woman’s
issue, and I (rightly) expected that many women would resent me giving my
opinion on how they should react to a difficult situation that I was never
going to face. And I expect that a lot of other men feel the same reluctance.
That’s probably why there so many more women here today than there are men.
  But I have found that when I am willing to raise the hard
issues about men’s attitudes towards women, women are more willing to listen to
what I have to say about the unborn child’s right to life.
VIII
Before closing, I want to talk about one more immediate
problem: what should a man do if he has gotten a woman pregnant? This is
obviously one of the most pressing issues relating to men and abortion. But
it’s also more difficult for me to answer, because I’ve never been in that
situation, and so it’s not as close to my own experience as the issue of chastity.
  However, I’ve done some research and talked to women who
work in crisis pregnancy centers and elsewhere, and so there’s a few things that
I think I can say.
  Frederica Mathewes-Green once observed that, “There is tremendous
sadness, loneliness in the cry, ‘A woman’s right to choose.’ No one wants an
abortion as she wants an ice cream cone or a Porsche. She wants an abortion as
an animal, caught in a trap, wants to gnaw off its own leg.”
  Therefore, it is crucial that if a man has gotten a woman
pregnant, he needs to take the initiative to make sure that she knows
he’s going to be there to care for her and for their child. Women in this situation
often fear that they’ll lose the relationship with the father, that they will
have to face the pregnancy alone. This is overwhelming to them, and they just
want a way out.
  Now, because our culture focuses on abortion as a woman’s
choice, many men who are willing to support the child still feel that they
should hold back, and see what the woman wants, and then support her in that
decision. However, one of the biggest factors in her decision is her
perception of the father’s willingness to support her and support the child.
If he holds back, she may interpret that as ambivalence, and decide to abort
the child, even though she might have kept it had the father decided to take more
initiative.
  It used to be that if a woman got pregnant, the father would
automatically have to marry her: the shotgun wedding. Now while I think a man has
a very serious responsibility to support both mother and child, I think the
shotgun wedding is a serious mistake, because marriage is a lifelong
commitment, and both parents need to discern carefully whether they are ready
for that commitment, and whether they believe that they can make a suitable
match with this person. Often, the relationships where a child is conceived
are not healthy relationships, and you don’t automatically want to pressure a
very immature and unhealthy couple to get married.
  But, the child is there and there is the necessity for
support. What are the options?
  First, as I say, they can get married, and raise their child
together. And this can be a good option, if the couple is ready for that
commitment. But, I would generally say that there is no need to rush to get
married right away, before the child arrives. Just dealing with the pregnancy
is tough enough. There’s a huge amount of stuff to deal with there, also a
great deal of emotional turmoil for the woman. A decision as important as
marriage shouldn’t be rushed. And waiting to make sure that it’s the right
decision is not a bad idea.
  The second option is for the mother to keep the child, and the
father to help her support it. This is probably the least preferred option available,
since it means the child grows up in a single-parent environment. Still, it is
probably preferable to have that versus forcing an unhealthy marriage that
later causes problems.
  The final option is to put the child up for adoption. Now,
from my logical male perspective, this seems like the best option in most
cases. If the couple is not ready for marriage, this gives the child the
chance to be taken in by a stable couple that wants and is ready to care for
the child. However, men in this situation should be aware that women form an
incredibly intense bond with the child they have carried in their womb for nine
months. When women choose to carry their child to term, the overwhelming,
overwhelming majority of them feel such a strong bond with their child that
they would prefer single motherhood to giving the child up for adoption by a
strange couple.
  Ultimately, I don’t have any answer as to which of those
options is the best. I think it comes down to prayer, seeking out advice from
those who are older, wiser, have a little bit of distance from the situation,
and both mother and father trying to do what is best for the child, and for
each other. It’s not easy, but I think each circumstance, you have to take it
as it comes, and see what’s best for everyone involved.
IX
In conclusion, I want to remind you of the two principles
that I started with: first, the essential foundation for the culture of life is
chastity; and second, that when a man and a woman have conceived a child, they
are responsible for the new life they have brought into the world, at the very
least until they can find others prepared to care for it.
  These principles help us to see that, instead of being
outsiders to the abortion debate, men can play a crucial, crucial role in
building the culture of life, because some men will have far more respect for
what other men say than they will for what their mothers or their girlfriends
say. Men can have this role by resisting the ways that the culture of death
dehumanizes women. And this, in turn, gives men the moral authority to address
life issues—an authority that the present framing of the abortion debate simply
does not allow. And most important, respect for these principles promotes the
happiness and human flourishing of everyone: mother, father, and child. Thank
you.
Ron Belgau has authored articles for the New Oxford Review and Notre Dame Magazine; his Notre Dame Magazine article shared first place in the Catholic Press Association’s 2005 Press Awards in the “Best investigative writing or analysis” category. He lives in the Archdiocese of Seattle, and has spoken within the Archidiocese, around the country, and on Catholic Radio, addressing issues relating to chastity and the Culture of Life. Following several years in the software industry, he returned to the University of Washington last year to study philosophy. He is a past national champion in the Intercollegiate Ethics Bowl, and his primary philosophical interests are virtue ethics, ancient philosophy, philosophy of mind, and philosophy of science. He may be reached by e-mail at rbelgau@hotmail.com.
copyright © 2006 by Ron Belgau.